Comments on: I hope the Celtic Tiger hasn’t Eaten All of Our Saints and Scholars http://www.btbtraining.com/2009/07/15/i-hope-the-celtic-tiger-hasn%e2%80%99t-eaten-all-of-our-scholars-and-saints/ Business development and strategy , sales and marketing, social media Thu, 17 May 2012 06:08:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Niall Devitt http://www.btbtraining.com/2009/07/15/i-hope-the-celtic-tiger-hasn%e2%80%99t-eaten-all-of-our-scholars-and-saints/#comment-5640 Niall Devitt Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:35:51 +0000 http://www.btbtraining.com/?p=349#comment-5640 Barney, I think you make a very valuable insight when you talk about "who lived through it before have a responsibility to engender a positive and forward looking attitude in all who are going to be responsible for growing our country in the future". This point is often missed and in my opinion, you identify a very important requirement of what our new leaders should look like. Lorna, thanks for your insight. Will new leaders equal new ideas? that is the big question. "We need to change our thinking" You are sooooo right, it's not funny. The route to there is to start thinking. Thinking in this country is entirely undervalued, very few feel it's a worthwhile exercise. Sean, you are right, it some respects, "no alternative" might be our saving grace. It's a mad world :-) Niall Barney, I think you make a very valuable insight when you talk about “who lived through it before have a responsibility to engender a positive and forward looking attitude in all who are going to be responsible for growing our country in the future”. This point is often missed and in my opinion, you identify a very important requirement of what our new leaders should look like.

Lorna, thanks for your insight. Will new leaders equal new ideas? that is the big question. “We need to change our thinking” You are sooooo right, it’s not funny. The route to there is to start thinking. Thinking in this country is entirely undervalued, very few feel it’s a worthwhile exercise.

Sean, you are right, it some respects, “no alternative” might be our saving grace.

It’s a mad world :-)
Niall

]]> By: Sean Martin http://www.btbtraining.com/2009/07/15/i-hope-the-celtic-tiger-hasn%e2%80%99t-eaten-all-of-our-scholars-and-saints/#comment-5549 Sean Martin Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:18:55 +0000 http://www.btbtraining.com/?p=349#comment-5549 Hi, we have a secret weapon, which is "no alternative" other than to build on the suggestions outlined the the foregoing comments. Hi, we have a secret weapon, which is “no alternative” other than to build on the suggestions outlined the the foregoing comments.

]]> By: Lorna http://www.btbtraining.com/2009/07/15/i-hope-the-celtic-tiger-hasn%e2%80%99t-eaten-all-of-our-scholars-and-saints/#comment-5548 Lorna Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:40:28 +0000 http://www.btbtraining.com/?p=349#comment-5548 Great blog post and comments. I especially like and agree with the comments re Celtic Tiger eating away at our creativity and that Fear is paralysing us, as Sean said, we never had anything to lose before. Whether the opposition would be any better in power is debatable but I feel we need new leaders, if only to give hope and inspiration. Unfortunately, I think it is down to the people to inspire each other but with various groups starting up, eg. on Linked in and using new social media, anything is possible. We seem to be stuck in a self-fulfilling prophecy that 'it is going to get worse before it gets better' and then of course, that's what's happening - need to change our thinking. Great blog post and comments. I especially like and agree with the comments re Celtic Tiger eating away at our creativity and that Fear is paralysing us, as Sean said, we never had anything to lose before. Whether the opposition would be any better in power is debatable but I feel we need new leaders, if only to give hope and inspiration. Unfortunately, I think it is down to the people to inspire each other but with various groups starting up, eg. on Linked in and using new social media, anything is possible.
We seem to be stuck in a self-fulfilling prophecy that ‘it is going to get worse before it gets better’ and then of course, that’s what’s happening - need to change our thinking.

]]> By: Barney Austen http://www.btbtraining.com/2009/07/15/i-hope-the-celtic-tiger-hasn%e2%80%99t-eaten-all-of-our-scholars-and-saints/#comment-5521 Barney Austen Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:22:48 +0000 http://www.btbtraining.com/?p=349#comment-5521 Hi. Agree on all points. The challenge will be for those who have never experienced the "tough times" i.e. those who started their working lives in the last 5 years and who can have no concept of what the word recession actually means. This is the fault of the society in which they were brought up - frugality, care and the understanding that money has to be worked for were all lessons forgotten (for the most part). Those of us who were around in the 80's/early 90's understand that hard work and thinking creatively were what helped us to gain/retain employment and to be in a position to thrive when things improved. People accepted the fact that we were in trouble then and tried to think of innovative ways to get themselves out of it. Now should be no different and those who lived through it before have a responsibility to engender a positive and forward looking attitude in all who are going to be responsible for growing our country in the future. David - joint venture is absolutely the new business order. As a collective group in any field(s), the bang for buck is far and above over that which can be provided by the individual. Companies need to look/work with others who can provide promotion and synergy for their own organisation and not be overly protective of themselves. Open communication and sharing of concepts/ideas will help us out of the current situation and to develop real success. Hi. Agree on all points. The challenge will be for those who have never experienced the “tough times” i.e. those who started their working lives in the last 5 years and who can have no concept of what the word recession actually means. This is the fault of the society in which they were brought up - frugality, care and the understanding that money has to be worked for were all lessons forgotten (for the most part).

Those of us who were around in the 80’s/early 90’s understand that hard work and thinking creatively were what helped us to gain/retain employment and to be in a position to thrive when things improved. People accepted the fact that we were in trouble then and tried to think of innovative ways to get themselves out of it. Now should be no different and those who lived through it before have a responsibility to engender a positive and forward looking attitude in all who are going to be responsible for growing our country in the future.

David - joint venture is absolutely the new business order. As a collective group in any field(s), the bang for buck is far and above over that which can be provided by the individual. Companies need to look/work with others who can provide promotion and synergy for their own organisation and not be overly protective of themselves. Open communication and sharing of concepts/ideas will help us out of the current situation and to develop real success.

]]> By: Niall Devitt http://www.btbtraining.com/2009/07/15/i-hope-the-celtic-tiger-hasn%e2%80%99t-eaten-all-of-our-scholars-and-saints/#comment-5519 Niall Devitt Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:55:39 +0000 http://www.btbtraining.com/?p=349#comment-5519 Sorry about the delay in publishing your comments gents ( I had a fight with wordpress this morning) Sean, as always, great insight. You are right we need leadership from the bottom up as well as from the top down. Fear is underrated as a factor and misunderstood as to its effects. In my opinion, how we combat it should be receiving more airtime. David, I really like your way of thinking and I am in violent agreement. Collaboration is the new competition, we are in this together and it is only in pulling together that we will work it out. Guys, Thanks so much for your great insights. Really excellent. Regards, Niall Sorry about the delay in publishing your comments gents ( I had a fight with wordpress this morning)

Sean, as always, great insight. You are right we need leadership from the bottom up as well as from the top down. Fear is underrated as a factor and misunderstood as to its effects. In my opinion, how we combat it should be receiving more airtime.

David, I really like your way of thinking and I am in violent agreement. Collaboration is the new competition, we are in this together and it is only in pulling together that we will work it out.

Guys, Thanks so much for your great insights. Really excellent. Regards, Niall

]]> By: David Walsh http://www.btbtraining.com/2009/07/15/i-hope-the-celtic-tiger-hasn%e2%80%99t-eaten-all-of-our-scholars-and-saints/#comment-5518 David Walsh Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:48:46 +0000 http://www.btbtraining.com/?p=349#comment-5518 The old ways of doing business are perhaps gone forever. They don't work anymore and folk who persist with old ways of Thinking, usually on the competitive plane, need to wake up. The way forward in business is to use our creative faculties to the best of our ability. Businessmen and women need to stick their necks out and Joint Venture with like-minded people, get creative and most of all, work together. It is then we will redeem the silenced Celtic Tiger. Then a new age of saints & scholars will emerge! David Walsh The old ways of doing business are perhaps gone forever. They don’t work anymore and folk who persist with old ways of Thinking, usually on the competitive plane, need to wake up. The way forward in business is to use our creative faculties to the best of our ability. Businessmen and women need to stick their necks out and Joint Venture with like-minded people, get creative and most of all, work together. It is then we will redeem the silenced Celtic Tiger. Then a new age of saints & scholars will emerge!
David Walsh

]]> By: Seán Weafer http://www.btbtraining.com/2009/07/15/i-hope-the-celtic-tiger-hasn%e2%80%99t-eaten-all-of-our-scholars-and-saints/#comment-5517 Seán Weafer Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:46:59 +0000 http://www.btbtraining.com/?p=349#comment-5517 Hi Niall, Like the blog. I like to think that the Irish are at their best when suffering or suppressed. That's when we start to fight hardest. That's when we release the good in our natures, our natural generosity, our volunteerism, our giving and our creativity. But I think there's a new element in our psyche now and that is fear. We were never afraid before - we had nothing to lose. Now we've tasted the 'good life' we're afraid that we won't get it back. Fear can crush us and it can only be resolved by clarity and action. Great decisons give us clear steps to take. Great leaders share a vision with us and hold us to our course until the journey is over. Such decision making and leadership will come down to grass roots business and entrepreneurs and PAYE workers. Change at a micro level. Small changes - big results. Cheers, Seán Hi Niall,

Like the blog. I like to think that the Irish are at their best when suffering or suppressed. That’s when we start to fight hardest. That’s when we release the good in our natures, our natural generosity, our volunteerism, our giving and our creativity. But I think there’s a new element in our psyche now and that is fear.

We were never afraid before - we had nothing to lose. Now we’ve tasted the ‘good life’ we’re afraid that we won’t get it back. Fear can crush us and it can only be resolved by clarity and action. Great decisons give us clear steps to take. Great leaders share a vision with us and hold us to our course until the journey is over.

Such decision making and leadership will come down to grass roots business and entrepreneurs and PAYE workers. Change at a micro level. Small changes - big results.

Cheers,

Seán

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